Indeed, the Christian significance of this event has no meaningful parallel with the Hindu story of Krishna. As my friend Daniel concludes:.
Right from the get-go, the Apostle Paul acknowledged that Gentiles found the idea of a crucified savior tough to accept 1 Corinthians , not like it was a common theme in pagan mythology. Even in the second century, the Greek Apologist Justin Martyr made a similar observation in Apology I : Skeptics said the idea of a crucified savior was absolutely crazy Bottom line: Was Krishna crucified?
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But despite what Graves insists, Krishna was not a pre-Christian example of a crucified savior. Mikel is a Ph. Copied From Krishna? Update: Concerning the identity of Simpson, the introduction to the H.
Simpson referring to new scholarship and also emphasizing a Christian viewpoint; Simpson omitted some of Moor's plates and added new ones. Higgins' description of the plate is accurate as far as it goes, though the "Parthian coronet" looks more like a scribble of a more complex work than in does a coronet. In any event the figure looks just like a crucified Jesus one would find in any Catholic or Orthodox church. I also find no justification in Moor's pictures for Higgins' further claim, "All the Avatars or incarnations of Vishnu are painted with Ethiopian or Parthian coronets.
Now, in Moor's Pantheon, the Avatar of Wittoba is thus painted Wild speculations by Lundy about it being, i.
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There is indeed a less important incarantion of Vishnu named Wittoba. Moor has provided us with an image of this incarnation, and Higgins, and Graves and Doane try to make out that he was a crucified god. Doane made this statement about Moor's drawing of Wittoba:. Figures 4 and 5 of Plate 11 do not represent Wittoba, but Ballaji and Lakshmi, his spouse. Ballaji is another incarnation Avatara of Vishnu as I mentioned already.
One of the copies of the original edition of the Hindu Pantheon that I consulted in the University of Pennsylvania Rare Book and Manuscript Library does indeed represent them with circles on their feet, just like the circles on one of Hanuman's feet and on one of his hand knuckles in Plate 91, figure 1. However, if these are holes from nail marks or are just some sort of Indian decoration, I don't know. The Hindu Pandit believed that the image drawn on Plate 98 was of Wittoba because he has a hole in one of his feet, however, as I have shown above, he was probably mistaken. The mark of the foot on Wittoba's right breast is explained in a footnote by Moor [H.
According to his account, which he obtained from a Brahman, a divine being named Bhrigu went out to test Vishnu, Shiva, and Brahma to see which was the greatest of them. After insulting Brahma and Shiva, he went to see Vishnu who was asleep at the time.
Bhrigu kicked Vishnu on one of his breasts and Vishnu awoke, showing concern that Bhrigu may have hurt his foot when he kicked him on the breast. Bhrigu now believed that Vishnu was the greatest of the gods. Thus Moor states: "Vishnu, in the character of Wittoba, retains indelibly the impression of Bhrigu's foot; but why it is retained particularly by Wittoba I find no mention of.
Moor says that he had in posession many images of Wittoba, but it appears that he only provides us with a drawing of one of them and that being figure 6 of plate The critic quotes Higgins as stating:. The only image that Moor provides us of Wittoba is fig 6 of plate 11, for he mentions no other [H. In the version of the Hindu Pantheon that I looked at, which was itself copied in or around the year , there are no holes at all in Wittoba's hands, and there is only one foot with a hole on it.
Moor states that he left out the account of the hole in Wittoba's foot. Lundy had used Moor's book and he is apparently referring to the image of Wittoba that Moor provides us with. In the Hindu scriptures, such as the famuous and extrememly important Bhagavata Purana [Skandha 11 chapters 30 and 31, Tagare volume 11 pages of the Ancient Indian Tradition and Mythology Series] and the Mahabharata [Krishna Dharma "Mahabharata" page ], Krishna is hit in the foot with an arrow by a hunter at a distance who had thought that Krishna was a deer or some animal.
Krishna was meditating at the time he was shot. Shortly after this Krishna departs from the earth. Vithoba, according to Licona's correspondence with Edwyn Bryant, is another name for Wittoba.
Lundy appears to be right in his description of the hole in Wittoba's foot. Moor's statements show that Wittoba and Ballaji are two different incarnations of Vishnu, not two different names for one and the same incarnation [H. Concerning Higgins's statement about Wittoba that "little respecting this incarnation is known", Moor contradicts him by saying of Wittoba "This was one of many subordinate incarnations of Vishnu.
It took place at Panderpur, a very respectable town about eighty miles to the south east of Poona.
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The Brahmans speak of it as an event of not very ancient date; but say that it is recorded, perhaps prophetically, in the Maha Bhagavata. The story of Vishnu showing concern for Bhrigu's foot, as related above, in the words of Moor gives "some resemblance to the advice given by superior authority, of turning the unsmote cheek to the assailant. Before this essay is concluded, some more drawings from Edward Moor's Hindu Pantheon need to be examined.
Figure 1 of Plate 6 is a drawing of a statue of Vishnu. In the palm of one of his four hands there is a four sided diamond shaped marking with a hole in the center. In one of Varaha's hands there is also a four sided diamond shaped object with a hole in the center. Could these represent the holes from a crucifixion? Only two of Varaha's hands are visible. Moor gives us a description of this figure where he explains of Varaha that "The Chank and Chakra are in two of his four hands.
Moor's description is somewhat confusing here since he object in one of Varaha's hands looks a lot like the Chakra and not the Chank in figure three of plate 6, while the other object is the diamond shaped one with the hole in the center. Moor may have made a mistake herebut this is doubtful.
Or maybe Moor was just mistaken and wasn't sure what the diamond shaped object really was. The object in his upper right hand is probably the chank, but what the diamond shaped object is in his lower right hand may not be for sure unless the following interpretation is correct. Perhaps he really should have said that Varaha was holding two Chakra's. There is another image in Moor's book, but this time of the Buddha, figure 5 of Plate 70, where he holds a four sided diamond shaped or square object in the palm of his hand with a hole in the center.
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Moor explains that this represents a wheel, but typically represents the Chakra. Another plate included in this description is plate 69 which depicts Surya Buddha with a four sided diamond shaped object with two lines through it shaped like an X but with no hole in the center. There must exist different representations of the Chakra - one in which it is in a circular discus shape, while the other is a four sided diamond shape. From this we can conclude that the objects held in the hands of Vishnu and Varaha represent the Chakra in a four sided diamond shaped form, somewhat different from its usual circular discus form.
Finally, it should be duly noted that there is absolutely no evidence in this figure in Plate 98, or any figure noted by Moor, for "a crucified Krishna, prior to Christianity" -- the figure is clearly Jesus, and it was found by Moor in the s. How will a critic strain to date this back another years or more?
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Latest News Ministry Manifesto What we do! Featured Resource Defining Inerrancy. In the earlier copies of Moor's Hindu Pantheon, is to be seen representations of Crishna as Wittoba , with marks of holes in both feet, and in others, of holes in the hands. In Figures 4 and 5 of Plate 11 Moor's work , the figures have nail-holes in both feet. Plate 6 has a round hole in the side; to his collar or shirt hangs the emblem of a heart which we often see in pictures of Christ Jesus Continuing from a critical view, one even tries to make out that other Hindu gods were crucified, citing Higgins as stating of other Plates in Moor's Hindu Pantheon : In figures 4 and 5 of plate 11, the figures have nail-holes in both feet.
In plate 12, and in plate 97, he has a round mark in the palm of the hand Higgins gives us another one of his own interpretations of one of Moor's drawings: Figure 1, plate 91, of Moor's Pantheon, is a Hanuman, but it is remarkable that it has a hole in one foot, a nail through the other, a round nail mark in the palm of one hand and on the knuckle of the other, and is ornamented with doves… Hanuman was a supernatural monkey Vanara who played a prominent role in the great Indian epic Ramayana [Krishna Dharma "Ramayana" pages and page ].
Here's another example: Unfortunately, Dr. Inman's Ancient Faiths, from which Doane took his quote, was another of those books apparently targeted for mutilation: The copy we used had the pertinent pages on the virgin birth and the crucifixion torn out of them. Furthermore, J. Lundy's Monumental Christianity was evidently stolen from the library we used; hence, another copy of this most enlightening book had to be obtained, from a library 1, miles away. Another of these missing books was Dean Henry Milman's History of Christianity, which contains similar information. Christ too delivered a similar directive: "But though, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thy shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
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